{"id":17157,"date":"2017-07-05T07:00:54","date_gmt":"2017-07-05T11:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/?p=17157"},"modified":"2017-07-05T10:19:22","modified_gmt":"2017-07-05T14:19:22","slug":"interview-with-lawrence-gowan-of-styx-i-think-the-slayer-fans-backstage-were-shocked-to-see-kerry-in-about-150lbs-of-chains-and-all-the-tattoos-come-out-and-go-oh-man-that-last-s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/?p=17157","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Lawrence Gowan of Styx: \u201cI think the Slayer fans backstage were shocked to see Kerry in about 150lbs of chains and all the tattoos come out and go, \u201cOh man.  That last Styx show was great.  I\u2019m really looking forward to seeing you again soon!\u201d\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure style=\"width: 303px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"shrinkToFit\" src=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/www.adventuremusiclife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/DSC_0448.jpg\" alt=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/www.adventuremusiclife.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/DSC_0448.jpg\" width=\"303\" height=\"394\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><center><em><strong>Photo by Nici Lucas<\/strong><\/em><\/center><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em><strong>Whether you like them or not, Styx has been a strong musical force for nearly 40 years.\u00a0 Styx has a lot of cred in the hard rock\/metal community and rightfully so.\u00a0 While known for their ballads such as \u201cLady\u201d and \u201cBabe\u201d, Styx can also rock with the best of them with songs such as \u201cThe Renegade\u201d, \u201cThe Angry Young Man\u201d, and \u201cGone Gone Gone.\u201d\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>For nearly two decades, Lawrence Gowan has been the \u201cnew\u201d guy in Styx who has just recently released The Mission, their best album since The Grand Illusion.\u00a0 Lawrence was kind enough to take time during Styx\u2019s crazy touring schedule to talk with me.\u00a0 He was a really humble, sweet, and funny guy and I loved hearing his stories such as jamming with Billy Preston, hanging out with Kerry King of Slayer, and his love of symphonic\/black metal.\u00a0 This is hands down one of my favorite interviews to date and I hope you\u2019ll all dig this one.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lawrence, thank you so much for taking the time out to talk to me today.\u00a0 I have to also thank you for not running like hell when you saw you were interviewing with a blog called The Great Southern Brainfart.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] I love it.\u00a0 I\u2019m excited to talk to anyone who\u2019s excited to talk about Styx, The Mission, or even Canada Day which I know has a lot of festivities there on July 1st.\u00a0 Ok, so maybe not so much the third one [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>For starters, what is one question you get asked so much that if you get asked it again you\u2019ll kick Tommy Shaw or something?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Is it true that you\u2019re even better looking in real life? [laughs]\u00a0 I actually wouldn\u2019t kick Tommy Shaw under any circumstances.\u00a0 I do get a kick out of him though [laughs].\u00a0 Well, the funny one, the ironic one is, \u201cHow does it feel to be the new guy in Styx?\u201d and I\u2019ve been in Styx for closing in on two decades.\u00a0 Funny enough, if I take a few seconds and think about the question, I kind of like that.\u00a0 Yeah, I\u2019m the new guy [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I grew up listening to my father playing The Grand Illusion all the time and he loved that album.\u00a0 The Mission is such a great album.\u00a0 I wish he was alive to hear it because he would\u2019ve loved it and probably thought it was the best thing you guys have done since The Grand Illusion.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I have to say, that is one of the nicest compliments that I have ever heard.\u00a0 That\u2019s a very nice notion, Don.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lawrence, you have really solidified your position as an integral member of Styx.\u00a0 I don\u2019t even hear you and think, \u201cHe\u2019s a replacement\u201d especially with the new album, The Mission.\u00a0 This album has you guys sounding like a new band in a very good way. This album even brought back this love that I forgot that I even had <\/strong>for <strong>the band.\u00a0 Are you hearing or seeing that much because of The Mission?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thank you so much for saying that.\u00a0 The album has only been out a couple of weeks, and in that first week of shows, we\u2019ve felt a tsunami coming at us of people embracing the band.\u00a0 The chart numbers came out and were floored to see the album enter at #6 on Billboard.\u00a0 It was a little overwhelming on one hand but on the other hand, the reaction at the shows when we play \u201cGone Gone Gone\u201d and \u201cRadio Silence\u201d has been as if we\u2019re playing \u201cBlue Collar Man\u201d or \u201cRenegade.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s amazing how the audience has immediately embraced the new songs.\u00a0 I guess they were ready for this and luckily we somehow managed to bring them the right album.\u00a0 It\u2019s like your waiter bringing out the exact right thing that you want to eat next [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hell, it\u2019s more like the waiter bringing out dessert first.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Well yeah!\u00a0 I prefer that analogy.\u00a0 Let\u2019s start it off with the Bananas Foster [laughs].\u00a0 Honestly, Don, we wanted to come up with something that would stand alongside the great legacy of Styx, particularly that era in the 70s when there was such an explosion of great bands making music.\u00a0 I think by staying along those guidelines we have something to be proud of.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>With The Mission, not only did I love the conceptual aspect of it, I loved that each song stood on its own very strongly.\u00a0 &#8220;The Greater Good&#8221;, in my opinion, is your shining moment on this album.\u00a0 On a song like this, where do you have to go in your mind in order to get to that place where you can deliver such a performance?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Don, that\u2019s great.\u00a0 Again, I have to thank you for saying that.\u00a0 I\u2019ve always believed that what\u2019s great about singing is when you believe the person who\u2019s singing the song; when you believe what\u2019s coming out of their mouth.\u00a0 This is why I think Mick Jagger is a great singer.\u00a0 There are people with much superior vocal capabilities who are not as good singers because I don\u2019t believe them when they sing.\u00a0 I believe that they\u2019re very much in love with their own voice and trying to make that the shining star instead of the lyric.\u00a0 Many years ago a friend of mine, Tony Levin, was in Toronto and he invited me to the studio where he was recording with Steve Winwood.\u00a0 I was really lucky to have dinner with Steve Winwood and I was able to ask him a question about vocals: \u201cWhat\u2019s one thing you\u2019ve noticed over the course of your career about vocals that you could share as any kind advice?\u201d and he said, \u201cUsually, the very first take you do on a song has something to it that is more honest than any other time you perform the song.\u00a0 You can perfect it from that point on but it becomes a performance.\u201d\u00a0 He said that he\u2019s always retained that first take because it comes across as very true.\u00a0 We had just finished the lyrics for \u201cThe Greater Good\u201d and the very first take of the song is when it happened for me and that\u2019s what\u2019s on the record.\u00a0 I guess I just connected with the lyrics in a more profound way because it was as if it was coming into my head for the very first time as I was reading them from the lyric sheet.\u00a0 It\u2019s like the vibe of the song superseded any one individual and what they contributed.\u00a0 It\u2019s where that Steve Winwood bit of advice finally came into play.\u00a0 A few weeks later, we went back to polish up \u201cThe Greater Good\u201d vocal, we put it on, and we didn\u2019t want to change anything about it.\u00a0 It felt authentic and it\u2019s just one of those lucky moments; it arrived on that day and again, I\u2019m really happy to hear that you enjoyed it that much.<\/p>\n<p><iframe width=\"750\" height=\"422\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_ZCQZCkaYNU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>I definitely get the vibe from you that you are as big a fan of music as you are a musician.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Honestly, I am.\u00a0 I\u2019m a huge Genesis fan and I\u2019ve been listening to \u201cFirth of Fifth\u201d a lot lately from Selling England by the Pound and I\u2019ve been listening to a lot of Supertramp as well over the past few days.\u00a0 I\u2019m as a big fan, if not bigger, than I am a musician.\u00a0 I listen a lot and I pick up those vibes every day because they\u2019re so enriching to your life.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Mission has <\/strong>Styx sounding<strong> youthful and so full of life.\u00a0 This is definitely not a phoned in <\/strong>nostalgic<strong> album.\u00a0 It\u2019s progressive yet the songs are all pretty short.\u00a0 Was this an orchestrated plot to keep the album accessible while appeasing the <\/strong>proggy<strong> fans?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We were cognoscente that it had to be true to who we are as individuals and as a collective today because we\u2019re the ones that are in each other\u2019s faces for a 120 shows a year [laughs].\u00a0\u00a0 This is a band with a long legacy, nearly 45 years of existence, so if it doesn\u2019t resonate in some manner with the past it doesn\u2019t really stand a chance of resonating with the audience that loves this band.\u00a0 As I like to say, this is an album of Styx in the present day, reflecting on the glories of their past with a story about the future [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I get my opinionated nature from my dad and I can remember him being furious when \u201cMr. Roboto\u201d came out.\u00a0 He was yelling at the radio, \u201cWhat happened to them?\u201d\u00a0 Styx has obviously been a band who has managed to ride the wave of trends and managed to stay relevant in the 80s\u00a0 but now it seems like Styx is rooted in the now but yet you guys are able to put out something just as good as Grand Illusion or Pieces of 8 in 2017.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] It\u2019s a funny situation to be in but a fortuitous one in that we didn\u2019t have to make a new record.\u00a0 We could have continued to go around the world and play as many days of the year as we choose and play the classics.\u00a0 When we started making this record our little pact within the band was, \u201cIf we don\u2019t love it when we get to the end, we don\u2019t have to put it out.\u201d\u00a0 About a year into the process, the pride factor began to elevate to the point where we just had to put it out.\u00a0 We knew that there would be people who would embrace it and love it but whether they do in great numbers or not doesn\u2019t alter the course of the band.\u00a0 We just feel very proud of it and we feel that it\u2019s something that we are happy to expose people to.\u00a0 With that mindset, we proceeded with more and more confidence but as I said, the response has been great and it\u2019s all about timing and I guess our timing happened to come around where we had the right songs at the right time and people are reacting to it the way you are, Don.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Styx has always been a band that rocks way harder than most ever give you guys credit for.\u00a0 Is it a surprise to you that Styx is held in very high regard in the heavy metal community?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We actually played a festival in Sweden twice, the first time being in 2005 and then we went back and did it again in 2011.\u00a0 When we went there the first time it was Motorhead and a bunch of other really heavy bands.\u00a0 Styx runs the whole emotional section from very soft to very rocking.\u00a0 We were wondering if we should alter the set.\u00a0 We decided to just play what we had normally been playing and see how it goes and it was a revelation to all of us that there was such an embrace of the band from this much heavier audience than we would normally have.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you think it is about Styx\u2019s music that is so easy for a heavier audience to embrace?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, there are those elements to a Styx show.\u00a0 There\u2019s a lot of pretty rocking moments and enough so that it makes the quieter moments that much more meaningful and vice versa.\u00a0 The whole emotional spectrum is covered.\u00a0 It\u2019s amazing how younger people don\u2019t seem to have a problem with that.\u00a0 They seem to have acknowledged that a lot quicker than people who are concurrent with the band.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Are you a metal fan at all?\u00a0 Don\u2019t worry, I won\u2019t be upset if you say no.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Actually, my son (Dylan Gowan) plays in a black metal, symphonic metal band (Vesperia) and they won the Wacken Metal Battle in 2015.\u00a0 Through him, I got really into it and Dimmu Borgir became my favorite band.\u00a0 I listen to a lot of them and I also got into Children of Bodom and Opeth.\u00a0 Opeth really goes on both sides of the fence.\u00a0 They\u2019re progressive rock and they\u2019re also metal and I love them.\u00a0 I can go from listening to that stuff and listen to some early Yes.\u00a0 No matter what extremes you go to in rock, and I consider metal to be a great extreme to go to, it doesn\u2019t diminish your affinity for where it all came from.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>There are plenty of heavy metal musicians out there including Tom Hunting from Exodus and Joey Belladonna of Anthrax who are definitely not shy to express their love for bands like Styx and Journey.\u00a0 Have you ever had any personal interactions with any metal bands?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s funny that you ask that.\u00a0 Kerry (King) from Slayer has been to Styx shows before so he gave us tickets to their show.\u00a0 We went backstage after the show and it was great to see all these diehard metal heads.\u00a0 I think the Slayer fans backstage were shocked to see Kerry in about 150lbs of chains and all the tattoos come out and go, \u201cOh man.\u00a0 That last Styx show was great.\u00a0 I\u2019m really looking forward to seeing you again soon!\u201d\u00a0 [laughs]\u00a0 It was a knockout [laughs].<\/p>\n<p><iframe width=\"750\" height=\"422\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/i1gVIBKZ6cg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>I love that.\u00a0 I have noticed in all my years of being a metal fan that metal heads, for the most part, tend to be some of the most open-minded people when it comes to loving music.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes.\u00a0 Metalheads are not just open minded but the people.\u00a0 I feel they are the friendliest bunch of people when you\u2019re leaving a concert [laughs].\u00a0 It\u2019s amazing.\u00a0 Everything\u2019s been worked out and by the end of the show, everything is fine in the universe.\u00a0 They\u2019re really the friendliest bunch of people you can possibly be around and I love it.\u00a0 Dylan once had a kind of pop band that he was in.\u00a0 Those guys would come over and they weren\u2019t polite, they\u2019d leave all kinds of shit all over the rehearsal room.\u00a0 The metal band comes over, I never hear a peep out of them except for the roar the music but as they\u2019re leaving, they\u2019re like, \u201cHey, it\u2019s great to see you again. Thanks for setting up the gear for us!\u201d\u00a0 [laughs]\u00a0 Even our neighbors have noticed it.\u00a0 They\u2019re quiet when they go outside, they don\u2019t inflict any damage to anything meanwhile they\u2019re wearing t-shirts that say \u201cHail Satan\u201d on them so there you go [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there ever a song that you get tired of playing even after all these years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Honestly, there isn\u2019t.\u00a0 There is not one song I get tired of because if any song even approaches that, it gets dropped from the set.\u00a0 Tommy, JY, and Chuck did a lot of the weeding out of songs that they never want to play again long before I came into the band [laughs].\u00a0 The first few years that I was in the band we\u2019d look at each other after playing a certain song and suddenly it would just disappear from the setlist before it needed to be discussed.\u00a0 Now, quite frankly, I look at the setlist every night right before we go on and all I feel is the disappointment of what we\u2019re not playing that night [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>If you could play in any band for just one night, who would it be?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, who wouldn\u2019t want to be Billy Preston and play in the Beatles for one night?\u00a0 [laughs]\u00a0 We met Billy Preston in 2004 when we played at Eric Clapton\u2019s Crossroads Festival and we played \u201cI Am the Walrus.\u201d\u00a0 I turned around and there was Billy Preston standing side stage at my keyboard rig.\u00a0 I went over and he gave me the biggest hug and said, \u201cMan, that was fantastic!\u201d\u00a0 It was one of the greatest moments of my life.\u00a0 He wound up coming out and playing with us about a year later in Las Vegas at the Alladin and we did \u201cGet Back\u201d and \u201cWill It Go Round in Circles.\u201d\u00a0 Holy shit it was spectacular.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>That is amazing.\u00a0 I can only imagine how awesome it was to get to hang with Billy Preston.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh yeah.\u00a0 He had known the Beatles for a long time.\u00a0 He actually played in Hamburg at the same time they did so before the Beatles made it huge they actually knew him.\u00a0 Then when they made The White Album and Let it Be, to have him there playing keys, that\u2019s the most envious keyboard position I can ever imagine.\u00a0 He got to sit in and be a pretty significant part of that.\u00a0 Listen to him on \u201cRevolution\u201d and on \u201cLet it Be.\u201d\u00a0 That guy lived the ultimate dream of any keyboard player.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>If Hollywood was to make a movie about your life, who would play you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh definitely Denzel Washington.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I just love that you didn\u2019t even have to think about that one for a second.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] People sometimes say that I remind them of Gary Oldman and Harvey Keitel [laughs].\u00a0 I\u2019d like to see that one.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>What are you most excited about for the rest of 2017?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Honestly, I try and stay focused the day, Don.\u00a0 I find that it\u2019s a much better way for me than to project too much into the next few months.\u00a0 We\u2019re looking at a very intense touring schedule at the end of which I\u2019ll do about 6 or 7 solo shows in Canada so I have to pull all of that together.\u00a0 I know all of that\u2019s coming up but it\u2019s not foremost on my mind right now.\u00a0 I\u2019m just loving this moment right now in Styx history where there\u2019s this kind of effervescent air around the band.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lawrence, I really enjoyed the hell out of this interview.\u00a0 Thank you so much for wasting your time talking with me today.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Don, thank you so much.\u00a0 This was fun.\u00a0 Cheers and brainfarts!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Whether you like them or not, Styx has been a strong musical force for nearly 40 years.\u00a0 Styx has a lot of cred in the hard rock\/metal community and rightfully so.\u00a0 While known for their ballads such as \u201cLady\u201d and \u201cBabe\u201d, Styx can also rock with the best of them with songs such as \u201cThe Renegade\u201d, \u201cThe Angry Young Man\u201d, and \u201cGone Gone Gone.\u201d\u00a0 For nearly two decades, Lawrence Gowan has been the \u201cnew\u201d guy in Styx who has just 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