{"id":12685,"date":"2014-03-21T01:00:49","date_gmt":"2014-03-21T05:00:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/?p=12685"},"modified":"2014-04-06T13:23:24","modified_gmt":"2014-04-06T17:23:24","slug":"blowin-wind-with-riotgods-bob-pantella","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/?p=12685","title":{"rendered":"Blowin\u2019 Wind with Riotgod Drummer Bob Pantella: \u201cWe didn\u2019t want to make a long record.  It\u2019s really all about quality, not quantity.\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bob_Side13.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-12866\" alt=\"Bob_Side13\" src=\"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bob_Side13-300x157.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"157\" \/><\/a>Bob Pantella is one of the busiest guys in hard rock\/metal.\u00a0 If the guy isn\u2019t playing drums for Monster Magnet, he\u2019s playing drums for Riotgod.\u00a0 If he isn\u2019t drumming for Riotgod, he\u2019s drumming for Atomic Bitchwax.\u00a0 If he isn\u2019t drumming for Atomic Bitchwax, he\u2019s drumming for Cycle of Pain.\u00a0 If he isn\u2019t drumming for Cycle of Pain, he\u2019s hopefully soaking in a fucking hot tub or trying to get some fucking rest.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Just to add to Bob\u2019s ever busy schedule, Bob took some time to talk with me again for our third interview.\u00a0 It\u2019s always a great time talking to Bob and he truly loves what he does and it shows.\u00a0 We talked about what lit the fire in him as a kid to play music, we talked about the latest Riotgod masterpiece, and why he\u2019ll never stop doing what he loves the most: playing music and seeing the world.\u00a0 Bob\u2019s a great guy and once again ladies and gents, here\u2019s the extraordinary Bob Pantella.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob,thanks for taking the time to talk today brother.\u00a0 Long time no talk!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah man, it\u2019s been a while.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Another glorious press day for you!\u00a0 How the fuck are you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] I\u2019m doing great.\u00a0 Busy as fuck and going bananas [laughs]<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>When are you not busy as fuck dude?\u00a0 C\u2019mon.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] My fucking head is spinning.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I was bummed with the Monster Magnet show here in Atlanta got cancelled.\u00a0 I was so looking forward to finally having that beer with you.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Man, everybody got really fucking sick.\u00a0 Even the bus driver got sick [laughs].\u00a0 That night, Dave (Wyndorf; Monster Magnet singer) couldn\u2019t even talk with the fever and the sweat.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t too bad off.\u00a0 I was feeling achy but I really got sick as hell when I got home.\u00a0 It hit me hard.\u00a0 We didn\u2019t play the gig but we wound up going to that fucking strip club.\u00a0 What\u2019s it called?\u00a0 Where the 70 year old broad dances [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Clermont Lounge.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s it.\u00a0 Yeah, we wound up going there of course [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Every fucking band ends up at the Clermont dude.\u00a0 It\u2019s like Purgatory for strippers man.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] That\u2019s pretty fucking great.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>They have bands that play there sometimes and that\u2019s even funnier.\u00a0 Trying to watch your friend\u2019s band play while strippers are trying to dance to them is quite an experience.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] That\u2019s fucking classic.\u00a0 I don\u2019t even remember leaving the club to head back to the tour bus [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>So are you tired of doing interviews yet?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I haven\u2019t done that many.\u00a0 I did a few Euro interviews and those are always tough because I never understand what the fuck the guys are talking about [laughs].<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/dqZ_nlVuUMY\" height=\"315\" width=\"560\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>f<\/center><strong>So what is the difference between talking to a European press person and schmuck in Atlanta?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>They ask the same kind of questions, they just have a weird way of asking it.\u00a0 When you answer the questions you\u2019ve got to be very straight forward with real simple answers so they know what you mean.\u00a0 It\u2019s hard to not be too descriptive or use any slang.\u00a0 They\u2019re not all going to get that.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>So I have to say, Driven Rise is not just Riotgod\u2019s best album to date but it\u2019s a goddamn masterpiece.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thanks Don and honestly I feel that way too.\u00a0 We put a lot more time into it because we had the time.\u00a0 We paid a lot more attention to the artwork and actually hired a real artist to do the cover and it\u2019s our third record.\u00a0 I think we\u2019ve got it down by now [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>In all honesty, I felt like Invisible Empire kind of had a lack of focus.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Invisible Empire was done in a big rush.\u00a0 From the artwork to recording it, it was just a crazy deadline which was my fault.\u00a0 I should\u2019ve just ignored the deadlines and said fuck you, it\u2019ll be done when it\u2019s done but there was other shit in front of me and other tours that needed to be done.\u00a0 It would\u2019ve been another year but you know what?\u00a0 You live and you learn and this time around we did it right.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you guys at any point in the process of recording this album realize what a great album you had on your hands?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You know, I think it took us until we got to the last song.\u00a0 We finally listened to it as a whole and we said, \u201cYeah, this is sounding what it\u2019s supposed to sound like.\u201d\u00a0 We spent a lot of time with the order of the tracks and we are all just very happy with it.\u00a0 There\u2019s none of that, \u201cI wish I didn\u2019t do that\u201d or any of that.\u00a0 That album came out exactly the way we wanted it to and we got it.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Another thing I love about Driven Rise is that it\u2019s not a long album with filler on it.\u00a0 This is a solid, to the point album.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thanks.\u00a0 Yeah, we didn\u2019t do that on the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> record.\u00a0 We didn\u2019t want to make a long record.\u00a0 We wanted to make it fit on vinyl and that tends to let you cut off all the fat.\u00a0 There\u2019s not a lot of fat on this record.\u00a0 In the past, I used to think that the more you give them, maybe they were getting more for the money but I found that not to be true.\u00a0 It\u2019s really all about quality, not quantity.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I remember those days when bands like Iron Maiden only did like 7 or 8 song albums.\u00a0 Then CDs came out and they were maxing out the media disc with filler.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, there was a lot of fat on there.\u00a0 You only have so much in you when you\u2019re making a new album.\u00a0 You run out of fucking ideas [laughs].\u00a0 They can get boring and long winded and just get to the point and move on.\u00a0 45 minutes and that\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I thought it was funny that the newest Riotgod album is the shortest one.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Yeah, since the first one they got shorter and shorter [laughs].\u00a0 The next one will be five minutes long.\u00a0 We\u2019ll put out a \u201945 [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019ve seen bands like Skid Row putting out EPs and that\u2019s seems to work.\u00a0 I mean the average attention span of music listeners these days is what?\u00a0 5 songs?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs]\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 It\u2019s almost like going back to the old days when people just put out a fucking single.\u00a0 Nobody ever put out a fucking record, like the Motown stuff.\u00a0 There\u2019s your single.\u00a0 That\u2019s it.\u00a0 You put so much time into making a record and you put so much time into promoting but it\u2019s really only in people\u2019s minds for such a short time.\u00a0 Like the Skid Row thing, I think that\u2019s a great idea because at least you\u2019re in people\u2019s faces more often with something shorter.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I know it\u2019s probably like asking you who your favorite kid us but of all your projects, how does Riotgod stand among them?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, that\u2019s a good question.\u00a0 Actually, they\u2019re all a little different.\u00a0 I love them all equally but they\u2019re all different.\u00a0 I get something different from each of them.\u00a0 With Riotgod, it\u2019s my personal creative outlet.\u00a0 As far as the music goes, I really get to do everything I want in this band.\u00a0 Mark does the lyrics and the vocal melodies but I get to see it through from beginning to end and I can get that out of my system.\u00a0 With Atomic Bitchwax, that\u2019s great because I get to go crazy playing the drums and I love that and in Monster Magnet I get to play the giant rock shows and get that out of my system.\u00a0 With Cycle of Pain, we don\u2019t do all that much that often but that\u2019s more of a metal thing for me.\u00a0 I get to do the double bass thing and use the china boy [laughs].\u00a0\u00a0 They\u2019re all so different.\u00a0 It\u2019s great for me as a musician.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you ever feel that one day you\u2019ll have to whittle all these down to just one project or do you see yourself always being this crazy fucking busy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I just never find myself saying \u201cno\u201d to very much.\u00a0 If there\u2019s room in my life to do something else I\u2019m going to do it.\u00a0 I like being busy and I really enjoy it.\u00a0 It keeps me out of trouble.\u00a0 I also have my recording studio so I\u2019m always working in there.\u00a0 I love working in the studio.\u00a0 I love that as much as I love being on the road.\u00a0 I mean, it\u2019s totally different but I love it as much.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-2vCTSmSRv4\" height=\"315\" width=\"560\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/center><strong>Does it ever become a job to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Um, sometimes like when I don\u2019t feel like getting out of bed but it\u2019s not like I have to go lay bricks or something.\u00a0 I don\u2019t feel like I\u2019m going in the wrong direction.\u00a0 It\u2019s not like working behind the counter at McDonald\u2019s.\u00a0 Now that sucks.\u00a0 That would really suck [laughs].\u00a0 It\u2019s not a job to me.\u00a0 It\u2019s always fun.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>So how about a Riotgod East Coast tour?\u00a0 Are you going to come to Atlanta finally or am I going to have to come up to Jersey to see you guys and crash on your couch?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Well, we\u2019re going to do an east coast run heading down south in maybe into Texas.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know when just yet as nothing\u2019s been booked.\u00a0 I have to book it around stuff I have with Monster Magnet and I\u2019m in studio with Atomic Bitchwax as we speak working on a new record.\u00a0 In September we\u2019ll be doing a Euro tour in there as well.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well get your ass here man.\u00a0 Atlanta needs a Riotgod show.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I know.\u00a0 Man, I haven\u2019t played in Atlanta in so fucking long and the one time I was supposed to play in Atlanta in December got fucking canceled [laughs].\u00a0 The last time I fucking played in Atlanta was with Raging Slab at the Fox Theater opening for the Red Hot Chili Peppers on the Mother\u2019s Milk tour [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>That\u2019s fucking insane.\u00a0 I was a huge Raging Slab fan and I had no idea you were in that band until a few years ago.<a href=\"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/1604509_10152006529263715_1347332936_n.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12770\" alt=\"1604509_10152006529263715_1347332936_n\" src=\"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/1604509_10152006529263715_1347332936_n-300x262.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"262\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, I was in that band from \u201989 \u2013 \u201991 touring with them for the debut album.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yeah, and you guys did some weird tours.\u00a0 Didn\u2019t you tour with Motley Crue too?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Yeah.\u00a0 We did some shows in Florida on the Dr. Feelgood tour [laughs].\u00a0 We just didn\u2019t fit with anybody at the time.\u00a0 Yeah, like I said, the last time we played Atlanta was with Raging Slab, Mr. Crowes Garden, and the Chili Peppers.\u00a0 Like six months after that show, Mr. Crowes Garden became the Black Crowes and they just took off.\u00a0 That would\u2019ve been a good tour.\u00a0 The Black Crowes and Raging Slab.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I always found it funny that you had this side bar of bands like Raging Slab, Junkyard, Tesla, even a band like Dangerous Toys yet you guys never toured together and ended up on these really odd, fucked up bills.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Yeah.\u00a0 That would\u2019ve made so much sense to tour together.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob, just a few questions about YOU brother.\u00a0 When did you know you wanted to be a musician?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh man, I was a really little kid.\u00a0 I was like 3 or 4.\u00a0 My dad was a guitar player in a band and they would always rehearse in our living room so I\u2019ve been surrounded by it since I was a little kid.\u00a0 I knew forever.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why the drums and not the guitar or the oboe?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs]When you\u2019re 3 or 4 years old and you\u2019re looking up at a big drum set it\u2019s pretty impressive.\u00a0 It\u2019s a very uncomplicated thing.\u00a0 You just hit the circles with a stick.\u00a0 I mean, what\u2019s more fun than that? [laughs]<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>So your\u00a0 parents must\u2019ve been really supportive of you as a musician.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, totally.\u00a0 I just grew up with music constantly playing all around me.\u00a0 It was just always around.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you remember the first gig you ever played?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, I think I was like 12.\u00a0 I played in a park with a rock band called Ruins.\u00a0 We\u2019d play covers like \u201cCocaine\u201d and \u201cStranglehold.\u201d\u00a0 We weren\u2019t good but we played them [laughs].\u00a0 I was always playing with people and trying to put a band together which is hard to do at that age because everyone is so fucking scatterbrained.\u00a0 Hell, now it\u2019s not much different but anyway [laughs].\u00a0 From there I just never stopped and it just grew into a career.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Drum solos:\u00a0 Cool or not cool?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Eh, if you\u2019re a drummer, yeah they\u2019re cool but for everybody else, I don\u2019t think they\u2019re that great [laughs].\u00a0 They can be really funny and corny unless you\u2019re listening to Buddy Rich or something serious.\u00a0 I\u2019m not into them.\u00a0 I like listening to them personally like for my own learning but really, it\u2019s more of a get up and go get a beer thing [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s your favorite drum solo that you\u2019ve heard?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My favorite drum solo?\u00a0 In a rock band?\u00a0 Deep Purple \u201cThe Mule\u201d on Made in Japan.\u00a0 I love that solo.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>If you could play drums in any band of any era for just one night who would it be?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh fuck man.\u00a0 For one night?\u00a0 I\u2019d be John Bonham with Zeppelin at Madison Square Garden in 1973.\u00a0 I\u2019d get to play fucking \u201cMoby Dick\u201d for a half hour [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>How important is the drum sound on albums to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh it\u2019s paramount.\u00a0 It\u2019s very important because on any album it\u2019s all built on top of the drums.\u00a0 Whether you\u2019re a drummer or not, you know a good rock record when you hear a good drum sound.\u00a0 Back in Black.\u00a0 Man, what a great fucking drum sound.\u00a0 There\u2019s nothing worse than hearing great songs with a shitty, thin drum sound.\u00a0 I fucking hate that.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Like, does it kill you when you hear crappy sounding drums on albums?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh yeah.\u00a0 It ruins it.\u00a0 IF the song is a good song, that can usually shine through a shitty recording or something but if you have the option, at least try.\u00a0 Maybe spend a little money [laughs].\u00a0 If you\u2019re making a record and you have no budget, at least go somewhere that you can get the drums to sound really good.\u00a0 Drums are acoustic.\u00a0 It\u2019s so much easier to capture guitars and everything else in a small space but drums are the hardest thing to capture because they\u2019re acoustic.\u00a0 Once you get past that, you have a really strong foundation to build upon and I think any musician would probably say the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Except for Lars Ulrich.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Yeah.\u00a0 [laughs]<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you feel like technology when it comes to making records these days has done more harm than good?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, it really just comes down to how you use it.\u00a0 It still comes down to a good ear.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t matter what kind of recording device you\u2019re using.\u00a0 It all comes down to a good set of ears and good taste.\u00a0 The hard thing about it is that you have so many options.\u00a0 Too many and that can be dangerous.\u00a0 You can lose yourself in it very easily.\u00a0 It definitely, if anything, takes a lot more discipline to not do certain things even though you can.\u00a0 It\u2019s just so easy to press that shiny red button but you should just leave it alone [laughs].\u00a0 You should just be able to capture a band and its sound.\u00a0 If you have to change the way that you play to record something, then the recording is being done wrong.\u00a0 Like the Queens of the Stone Age thing.\u00a0 They recorded all the drums and then the cymbals later.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>That\u2019s a horrible idea.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Right?\u00a0 Why would you do that?\u00a0 You\u2019re missing the whole point of capturing something.\u00a0 That\u2019s a horrible idea.\u00a0 It\u2019s like how Def Leppard recording one string at a time and then making chords out of that later in the mix.\u00a0 That\u2019s just fucking weird [laughs].\u00a0 I mean, whatever floats your boat but I like the real deal.\u00a0 I like real rock n\u2019 roll [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is a hard rock\/metal album that nobody should live without hearing?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There are so many but ya know?\u00a0 Let\u2019s go way back and obscure and say those first two Dust records.\u00a0 Those are great records.\u00a0 They got lost in the fucking dust [laughs].\u00a0 I think they just re-issued them on vinyl a year ago or so.\u00a0 I love discovering old stuff I never heard before.\u00a0 That\u2019s stuff I would recommend everybody check out especially if you\u2019re a stoner rock fan.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I love hearing some of these newer bands coming out and playing that old stoner, kind of occult rock style.\u00a0 Are there any new bands like that you feel are doing it right?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, Kadavar from Germany.\u00a0 Those guys are fucking great.\u00a0 They really nailed that sound and got it down.\u00a0 They sound great.\u00a0 They got the right equipment and they even fucking look great.\u00a0 You\u2019d never know it was a fucking new [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is it about that classic sound that seems to have been making such a comeback with newer bands?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think it\u2019s really just cyclical.\u00a0 Everything comes back around at some point.\u00a0 That kind of music was only around for a very short period, maybe five years and then it was gone.\u00a0 It\u2019s just kind of a blip on the screen but it was such a great moment.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know if people realized it while it was happening.\u00a0 Probably not but that just a really good time in music.\u00a0 They were really no rules yet and just the freedom of it.\u00a0 It sounds honest and real.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t sound contrived.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>If you were to lose an arm, would you continue to play drums like Rick Allen or just call it a day?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Man, that\u2019s a tough call.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know if I would ever perform but I definitely wouldn\u2019t stop making music.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s cool that he\u2019s still doing it.\u00a0 It takes a lot of fucking balls to get in front of a crowd of people and doing that.\u00a0 Could you even imagine going through all that?\u00a0 He pulled it off.\u00a0 He supplemented his left foot to make up for the slack.<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>That\u2019s true.\u00a0 I mean what do you use your fucking left foot for anyways besides keeping the hi hats closed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] It\u2019s like the last floor tom.\u00a0 That\u2019s a table isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 A place to put your drink.\u00a0 [laughs]<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Finish this sentence:\u00a0 If I wasn\u2019t a musician I would be\u2026..<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A bank robber.\u00a0 [laughs]<\/p>\n<p>=========================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob, it was so great to talk to you again brother.\u00a0 Thanks so much for taking the time to do this.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, dude, this was fun.\u00a0 Next time I\u2019m in town we\u2019ll go the Clermont and hang out [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>For more on Riotgod, check out their Facebook Page at: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/riotgod999\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/riotgod999<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bob Pantella is one of the busiest guys in hard rock\/metal.\u00a0 If the guy isn\u2019t playing drums for Monster Magnet, he\u2019s playing drums for Riotgod.\u00a0 If he isn\u2019t drumming for Riotgod, he\u2019s drumming for Atomic Bitchwax.\u00a0 If he isn\u2019t drumming for Atomic Bitchwax, he\u2019s drumming for Cycle of Pain.\u00a0 If he isn\u2019t drumming for Cycle of Pain, he\u2019s hopefully soaking in a fucking hot tub or trying to get some fucking rest. Just to add to Bob\u2019s ever busy schedule, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[194],"tags":[1124,587,586,527],"class_list":["post-12685","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interviews","tag-atomic-bitchwax","tag-bob-pantella","tag-monster-magnet","tag-riotgod"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12685","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12685"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12685\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12685"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12685"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12685"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}