{"id":12393,"date":"2014-01-06T01:00:09","date_gmt":"2014-01-06T06:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/?p=12393"},"modified":"2024-01-30T16:00:39","modified_gmt":"2024-01-30T21:00:39","slug":"blowin-wind-with-queensryches-geoff-tate-one-persons-art-is-another-persons-waste-of-time-its-really-all-very-subjective-and-i-think-art-should","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/?p=12393","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Queensryche\u2019s Geoff Tate: \u201cOne person\u2019s art is another person\u2019s waste of time.  It\u2019s really all very subjective and I think art should push people\u2019s buttons.\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>It\u2019s hard to believe that it\u2019s been 31 years since Queensryche arrived in the metal world a young, hungry band with a sound that was a unique mix of progressive smarts and classic NWOBHM.\u00a0 While the music of Queensryche was stellar on it\u2019s own, it was the voice of lead singer Geoff Tate that truly made Queensryche a revolutionary and ground breaking band.\u00a0 With a voice that cuts through the air with the intensity of a sonic boom, Geoff Tate over the years would solidify himself as one of the most unique singers in metal and go on to inspire and influence a whole new generation of singers.\u00a0 Queensryche experienced many years of success and some amazing albums but in 2012 a shakeup in the band had the band parting ways and eventually being a camp divided.\u00a0 Queensryche vs. Queensryche.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s no secret that the last couple of years have been trying times for not just a band divided but a fan base divided as well.\u00a0 I really got kind of tired reading all these interviews with Geoff Tate that seemed to never go beyond the feud between him and his former band mates.\u00a0 I decided to reach out to Geoff to see if he\u2019d be willing to talk about anything else other than that and he excitedly jumped on it.\u00a0 Geoff is a great guy and he&#8217;s a cut above the rest.\u00a0 We talked about the weather (literally), the subjectivity of music and other art forms, and eventually did touch briefly on his feelings about the bitter parting of ways.\u00a0 This was a great honor for me and I hope you all will dig reading my conversation with Geoff Tate.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geoff.\u00a0 Thanks so much for taking the time out to talk to me today.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thank you.\u00a0 It\u2019s my pleasure, Don.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Happy Holidays to you and your family by the way.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thanks Don.\u00a0 We\u2019re enjoying it but our weather\u2019s been incredibly cold right now here in Seattle.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been having several weeks of weather below the 20s which is kind of unusual for this part of the world.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well we\u2019re in Atlanta and we are also having colder weather than we\u2019re used to as well.\u00a0 I\u2019m sure it\u2019s because we\u2019re a bunch of lightweights though.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] What temperature have you guys been at?<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Oh we\u2019ve been in the 30s and below.\u00a0 Got some ice and what not.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh wow that is cold [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geoff, if it\u2019s ok with you I\u2019d rather not talk about the whole QR vs. QR thing.\u00a0 Besides, you\u2019ve probably feel like this horse has been beating way too much.\u00a0 You must be tired of going there.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Thank you.\u00a0 Yes, I am [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is the one question that you get asked so much that you if you had to hear it again you\u2019d scream?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, I get asked a lot about the lawsuit of course.\u00a0 Over the last year it\u2019s been pretty predominant in the interviews.\u00a0 Nobody ever asks me about music [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geoff, I\u2019ve got to know.\u00a0 What was it that made you want to be a musician in the first place?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I heard music [laughs].\u00a0 I found it to be incredibly inspiring and emotional and the more I learned about it the more I became enamored with the act of creating music and how you could completely lose yourself in your imagination and surround yourself with this noise that you\u2019ve created that you could manipulate and design to carry out the message of what you\u2019re thinking about.\u00a0 Music is a playground in a sense and you get to create these different places for you to go and for other people to go as well.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>The latest Queensryche album <em>Frequency Unknown<\/em> turned out to be quite the conversation starter.\u00a0 There was even a contest not too long ago where you had people video their thoughts on the album.\u00a0 What was it like watching people make such fools of themselves?\u00a0 Was there a little reverse psychology going on there?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Well, I think that\u2019s a really astute observation on your part and I think the videos kind of speak for themselves.\u00a0 There\u2019s really not much to say beyond that [laughs].<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/De--NWAGmkA\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center><strong>You released your 2<sup>nd<\/sup> solo album <em>Kings and Thieves<\/em> in 2012.\u00a0 I thought it was such a great album and a departure from the Queensryche sound.\u00a0 Did you enjoy touring for that album?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was great.\u00a0 We had some amazing shows.\u00a0 I love touring.\u00a0 I love performing and playing music live.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s one of the best things about a musician\u2019s life to be able to do that.\u00a0 It was really great for me to be able to perform the solo material live.\u00a0 I haven\u2019t been able to do that much because I\u2019ve been really focused on Queensryche and I\u2019ve been devoting the majority of my time, my thinking, and my life to that really.\u00a0 This was like taking a step away and breathing in some fresh air and trying a different approach to things which I really enjoyed.\u00a0 I loved playing that material.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>I wanted to talk about the song \u201cThe Way I Roll\u201d from <em>Kings and Thieves<\/em>.\u00a0 This song was such a strong statement and even became kind of an anthem for me.\u00a0 I\u2019m an outspoken, opinionated person and that song really clicked with me.\u00a0 I almost feel like that song is me getting things off my chest.\u00a0 What was the fuel behind this song?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That was pretty much it actually.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s important to express your individuality, to be proud of it, and to be confident in the uniqueness of you.\u00a0 There\u2019s nothing wrong with expressing that, \u201cThis is me.\u00a0 This is what I\u2019m all about.\u201d\u00a0 I like different things than what you may like and that\u2019s cool.\u00a0 I respect that you like different things than I like.\u00a0 We don\u2019t all have to think exactly the same.\u00a0 It\u2019s impossible for everyone to think in the same way.\u00a0 You can take any subject there is and the more people you get involved in the conversation the more and different opinions you have about it.\u00a0 That\u2019s the beauty of humanity.\u00a0 It\u2019s diversity.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6RirKPzSH6U\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center><strong>Another song I wanted to ask you about is the song \u201cSay U Luv It.\u201d\u00a0 Is this a voyeuristic look into your private life or was this just something to get the people talking for more of a shock value.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Um, you know?\u00a0 One of the great things about writing music is that you get to indulge in areas of fantasy and imagination that a lot of times people don\u2019t get to indulge in.\u00a0 I think that the relationship that happens between two consenting adults is really up to their own interpretation and imagination as dictated by that.\u00a0 I think people should have fun with that and that was just a fun song about that kind of a relationship.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YRDiWHndkVA\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center><strong>That song really seemed to get people talking a bit and what I loved about that is that I saw what everyone was saying and I said, \u201cThis is art.\u201d\u00a0 I mean, when I think of art I think of how one person might see crap thrown on a canvas but someone else might see the most beautiful thing they\u2019ve ever seen.\u00a0 Good art makes people talk.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs]\u00a0 I agree with you.\u00a0 That\u2019s the function of art.\u00a0 It has several functions and I think that\u2019s dependent upon the individual.\u00a0 First and foremost it\u2019s a means of expression.\u00a0 Secondly, it\u2019s there to be viewed and it can be taken in so many different ways.\u00a0 One person\u2019s art is another person\u2019s waste of time.\u00a0 It\u2019s really all very subjective and I think art should push people\u2019s buttons.\u00a0 It should get them talking about \u201cit\u201d and creating conversation is very important especially these days where we don\u2019t converse too much anymore.\u00a0 We spend a lot of time tapping it out in text messages rather than having conversations.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>You are so right about how we just don\u2019t seem to converse like we used to.\u00a0 It\u2019s like we\u2019re pounding it out on the internet and on forums as opposed to a good old fashioned open debate over coffee or lunch.\u00a0 That relationship with other people seems to be broken somewhat.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It really is.\u00a0 I worry about that because I wonder where the future\u2019s going to take us in regards to conversation.\u00a0 There\u2019s an intimacy with conversation that you can\u2019t get with the written word.\u00a0 There\u2019s an immediacy about it that is inspiring.\u00a0 I worry that it\u2019s missing now and that it will be forever and diminishing as time goes on.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Looking back say 20 years ago, has technology surpassed where you thought it would be for the better or even for the worst?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, for me, technology means specifically computer based technology and the communications that it opened up was always incredibly interesting to me.\u00a0 When I first became aware of computers and what they could do it just astounded me.\u00a0 My imagination went crazy and I saw all these different possibilities for utilizing these tools.\u00a0 Over time I think that all of those things have come to a realization and now everything we do is based around computer technology.\u00a0 It\u2019s become more of a standard as much as it can be in our capitalistic society.\u00a0 It\u2019s where we\u2019ve taken it as far as communication goes that\u2019s really the mind blowing thing for me and how people have adapted to it so easily and completely.\u00a0 We\u2019re always plugged in now and in fact it now takes effort to become unplugged [laughs].\u00a0 The discipline to pull yourself away from the social sites and the shopping and the information that is found on the internet you actually have to discipline yourself not to partake in it.\u00a0 The whole idea has now changed.\u00a0 Instead of indulging in it 24\/7 now I find myself pulling away from it as much as I can [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Speaking of the whole communication and technology thing, I have to say that Promised Land is hands down my favorite Queensryche album.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Why?<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well, that album just seemed to really hit a chord with me.\u00a0 Not so much when I was younger but maybe about five or six years ago it just really captivated me.\u00a0 I turned 40 this year so while I remember life without all of the technology we have today, I vividly remember the time it was starting to come alive.\u00a0 Promised Land captured that moment in time where technology was evolving and the Internet was really starting to come alive.\u00a0 It\u2019s almost like Promised Land captured this kind of promise and excitement of where technology might take us and what kind of doors it would open.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Again, Don, this is beauty of art but for me that album is a midlife crisis.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pyiHe2P5irA\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center><strong>I hope I didn\u2019t insult you by stating my love for that album.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Oh no, not at all.\u00a0 I like hearing how albums and songs affect people in a different ways.\u00a0 It\u2019s really interesting to me.\u00a0 It\u2019s a bit of anthropology [laughs].\u00a0 For me that record was about finding myself in a place in life where I had achieved everything that I\u2019d ever imagined.\u00a0 I was at a point of not having a clear view of what the possibilities were of what was next.\u00a0 I couldn\u2019t see it and I didn\u2019t know what I wanted to do or where I wanted to go.\u00a0 Before that I had always had a clear vision of where I was at.\u00a0 Promised Land was just me opening myself up to the fact that I didn\u2019t know anymore.\u00a0 The band had gotten to where we always talked about getting and I had more success and fame and money than I had ever dreamed possible.\u00a0 All of those things that I thought would make me feel fulfilled didn\u2019t.\u00a0 That\u2019s what that record is about.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maybe that is what made that connection with me as I was at this time at a crossroads in my life.\u00a0 I was an adult, I was looking to make a career change at the time and maybe I just connected with the feeling of being kind of lost yet optimistic that this album had.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes.\u00a0 It\u2019s kind of a like a marker.\u00a0 It\u2019s like when you leave your adolescence or your childhood behind and now you\u2019ve come to this point to where the real story starts happening [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Let\u2019s talk about the upcoming Queensryche tour.\u00a0 Queensryche is touring for 25<sup>th<\/sup> of <em>Operation: Mindcrime<\/em>.\u00a0 <em>Operation: Mindcrime<\/em> has been <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12397\" src=\"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/QueensrychePhoto2013BW2byPeterEllenby-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"QueensrychePhoto2013B&amp;W2byPeterEllenby\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" \/>such a strong, primary focus for Queensryche for so long.\u00a0 Is there another QR album that you look at and say, \u201cI wish that album had got the attention that <em>Operation: Mindcrime<\/em> received?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>All of our records for me have been very important.\u00a0 They are documented journeys for me.\u00a0 When you\u2019re listening to a Queensryche record you\u2019re listening to my life, my hopes, my fears, my joys, my challenges, all of these things that make up a life.\u00a0 For me they are all incredibly important.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know as a musician and as an artist that you can expect that your art is going to be appreciated or paid attention to at all.\u00a0 I feel very fortunate that some of our music has made its way into people\u2019s heads and affected their lives in some way.\u00a0 If you ask me, have we hit the nail on the head artistically throughout our career, I would say yes we have.\u00a0 <em><strong>Operation: Mindcrime, Rage For Order, Promised Land, American Soldier<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 Those albums to me are incredible statements of what they are.\u00a0 They\u2019re very unique and different and filled with a lot of information and done in a way that is very unique and should be looked at and experienced by other people.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>You said earlier that you enjoyed going out on your solo tour and doing those songs.\u00a0 Why go out as Queensryche now as opposed to going out there as Geoff Tate and diving more into that solo side of your conscious and creative side?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Honestly I feel like I\u2019m in an incredible position right now where I can do both.\u00a0 I used to think, and this was my way of operating and my way of looking at the world, that Queensryche has no limits.\u00a0 We can create anything that we can imagine and we define what we are by what we create.\u00a0 There shouldn\u2019t be any kind of limitations set upon us, especially limitations that are thought of by outside people.\u00a0 We shouldn\u2019t be influenced by what other people think we should be.\u00a0 I think I\u2019ve come to the realization that this isn\u2019t possible anymore.\u00a0 The world has changed and the world doesn\u2019t want non conformity.\u00a0 They want black and white art.\u00a0 If they fall in love with an artist or band, they want that artist or band to continue creating exactly the same thing over and over again.\u00a0 We\u2019ve created genre upon genre of sub genres now by breaking everything down into tiny boxes to digest and to sell.\u00a0 That\u2019s a difficult thing to swallow as an artist because I\u2019ve always felt that art is something that reflects your life and your life isn\u2019t a static thing.\u00a0 It\u2019s constantly moving and changing.\u00a0 You\u2019re experiencing different things and those things should be talked about in your art.\u00a0 The solo work gives me the chance to branch out from things that are Queensryche.\u00a0 When I have material that I feel fits within the confines of what Queensryche is I can release that material in that format.\u00a0 Other material that doesn\u2019t fit into that I can release as my solo work.\u00a0 I feel like I\u2019m in the right place to do both things.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is this also why you\u2019ve said that you don\u2019t really want to be in a band anymore and that you\u2019d rather work with a revolving door of musicians?\u00a0 Do you feel this will allow you more freedom as opposed to having to conform to normalcy I guess you could say?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, having the ability to collaborate with a number of different people gives you the freedom to create in a much more open way without being limited to the abilities of a given group of people so yeah, it gives you a lot more freedom to express yourself and to experiment.\u00a0 Also, having spent 30 years with the same people was an endeavor that started out with the best intentions.\u00a0 It was a band of guys getting together as friends and creating music, one for all and all for one.\u00a0 I honestly never thought that we would deviate from that and unfortunately I was proven wrong.\u00a0 I don\u2019t ever want to be in that position again of putting my heart and soul into something and having the good of the group in mind with every decision I make only to have one or two people within that group turn against me and betray me.\u00a0 I can\u2019t live with that anymore so I don\u2019t want to put myself in that position.\u00a0 I don\u2019t honestly feel like I need to be in that position anymore.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>At some point that can also prove to be detrimental to your creativity.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Absolutely.\u00a0 I know we didn\u2019t want to talk about the QR vs. QR thing.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geoff, this is your floor man so talk about whatever you want.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, I won\u2019t get too into it but I have to say that I am really looking forward to this whole thing winding down and coming to an end so I can get on.\u00a0 I want to live in that creative life that I\u2019ve been used to and I can\u2019t do that right now.\u00a0 I can\u2019t put myself into that frame of mind with this situation still looming over my head.\u00a0 It\u2019s just not conducive to a positive, creative experience.\u00a0 I\u2019m just waiting for the end of January to be done with [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geoff, I\u2019m glad you\u2019re moving forward and I have to say that I\u2019m really looking forward to seeing Queensryche here in Atlanta on January 10<sup>th<\/sup> at Center Stage Theater.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, I\u2019m very excited about that show.\u00a0 Atlanta\u2019s always been a great rock town and an incredibly supportive audience.\u00a0 It\u2019s always a great time.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Finally, finish this phrase.\u00a0 If I wasn\u2019t a musician I would be ____________.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] I\u2019ve never been able to finish that sentence.\u00a0 I never had a plan b.\u00a0 I\u2019ve always wanted to be a musician.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what else I could do or want to do.\u00a0 I find incredible fulfillment as a musician and as a writer.\u00a0 I feel incredibly fortunate to be able to do that.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geoff, thank you so much for taking the time out to do this interview.\u00a0 Happy New Year to you.\u00a0 Thanks again for all the years of great music and again, it\u2019s been a real pleasure talking with you.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well thank you Don and hopefully we\u2019ll see each other in Atlanta.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geoff, that would be great.\u00a0 Is there a particular beverage I can bring you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Well, you know I\u2019m a wine fan.\u00a0 I like all kinds of different kinds of wine.\u00a0 I\u2019m always interested in what other people like and what they find interesting.<\/p>\n<p>===============================================<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well, that\u2019s cool.\u00a0 Now the pressure is on to find a wine that Geoff Tate will like.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[laughs] Good luck.\u00a0 I\u2019m not that hard to please.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>For more on Geoff Tate, please head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/GeoffTateOfficial\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/GeoffTateOfficial<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s hard to believe that it\u2019s been 31 years since Queensryche arrived in the metal world a young, hungry band with a sound that was a unique mix of progressive smarts and classic NWOBHM.\u00a0 While the music of Queensryche was stellar on it\u2019s own, it was the voice of lead singer Geoff Tate that truly made Queensryche a revolutionary and ground breaking band.\u00a0 With a voice that cuts through the air with the intensity of a sonic boom, Geoff Tate 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