{"id":11842,"date":"2013-09-27T01:00:27","date_gmt":"2013-09-27T05:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/southeastofheaven.com\/?p=11842"},"modified":"2013-09-27T08:27:35","modified_gmt":"2013-09-27T12:27:35","slug":"blowin-wind-with-watains-erik-danielsson-i-think-people-should-consider-watain-a-catalyst-of-emotions-and-energy-that-in-turn-brings-a-lot-of-important-questions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.southeastofheaven.com\/?p=11842","title":{"rendered":"Blowin\u2019 Wind with Watain\u2019s Erik Danielsson: \u201cI think people should consider Watain a catalyst of emotions and energy that in turn brings a lot of important questions…\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"watain01\"<\/a>When you hear the term \u201cblack metal\u201d what things come to mind?\u00a0 You probably think of Satanic symbolism such as upside down crosses, pentagrams and Baphomet.\u00a0 Or do you think of face paint, aggressive, dark, and ominous music along with a theatrical presentation for the live performance?\u00a0 Whatever it is you think about, after reading this interview maybe you will find that there is more to it than you think.<\/strong><\/p>\n

According to Watain leader Erik Danielsson, when it comes to Watain, there are many layers to them as a band and within each layer you will find something deeper, more intense, and even more dark and sinister but it is up to you, the listener\/fan to decide just how deep you want to go.\u00a0 I was very intrigued and excited to speak with Erik about these deeper layers of Watain.\u00a0 Rather than stay at the surface of it all, I wanted to go a bit deeper and Erik was more than happy to escort me there and to answer my questions.\u00a0 Erik is a really soft spoken, kind, and very polite guy and I really enjoyed talking with him as he took me only where I chose to go.\u00a0 This is probably one of my all-time favorite interviews and I hope you all will enjoy exploring the depths of Erik Danielsson and Watain.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Hey there Erik, thank you so much for taking the time to do this interview today.\u00a0 How are you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hello Don.\u00a0 I am doing quite well today, thank you.\u00a0 You have some kind of an internet website?<\/p>\n

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Yeah.\u00a0 I run a site called the Great Southern Brainfart where I do interviews, concert reviews, album reviews and editorial type stuff.<\/strong><\/p>\n

[laughs] The Great Southern Brainfart.\u00a0 What does this mean?<\/p>\n

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There\u2019s a Pantera album called The Great Southern Trendkill and it\u2019s just a play on \"watain02\"<\/a>words from that album.\u00a0 I tend to just talk and ramble a lot so I am the Brainfart.<\/strong><\/p>\n

[laughs] That is very funny.\u00a0 Ok, I see.<\/p>\n

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It\u2019s a lot of fun.\u00a0 I\u2019ve wanted to be a metal writer ever since I was a kid so I\u2019m getting to do what I love.<\/strong><\/p>\n

That is very good for you Don.\u00a0 We should all do the things that we want to.<\/p>\n

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Yeah, I\u2019m a lucky dude.\u00a0 I have a wife with a great job which allows me the opportunity to do this.\u00a0 She\u2019s a cool woman.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ahhh, that\u2019s a good set up.\u00a0 I might look into that at some point and get one of those [laughs].<\/p>\n

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So I have to be honest.\u00a0 Aside from listening to Venom as a kid, I was never much of a Black Metal fan and then I gave you guys a listen and I\u2019m really intrigued with your songs and your performances.<\/strong><\/p>\n

That is really good to hear that you made that comparison.\u00a0 I wish I heard Venom and Watain in the same sentence more often.\u00a0 Venom is one of my all-time favorite bands and I think if you have that sort of background you might actually be able to relate to what we do as well.\u00a0 Musically there might be a slight difference.\u00a0 Venom are the originators of the Black Metal movement that we later became a part and we like carrying that torch onwards and uphold that legacy.<\/p>\n

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Watain seems to have more of that classic element than most of the other modern bands.\u00a0 Is that something that was intentional?<\/strong><\/p>\n

We never really sat down and discussed how Watain should sound.\u00a0 It\u2019s pretty safe to say though that our own personal preferences when it comes to Black Metal have always been very traditional.\u00a0 Venom are one of the most important bands ever to Watain and the same goes for bands like Merciful Fate and even bands like Exciter, Racer, and Voivod.\u00a0 We\u2019ve always leaned towards bands like that in our own musical tastes when it comes to metal.\u00a0 I suppose our sound really comes from a mix of those bands and late era Black Metal such as Mayhem and Dissection and so on.<\/p>\n

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Black Metal from when I was a kid almost seems slightly different than what some of the more modern Black Metal bands of today and I love that Watain seems to have found a way to bridge the gap between the modern and classic black metal sound which I love.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Wow, that is very cool.\u00a0 I am very glad to hear that Don.<\/p>\n

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\"watain03\"<\/a><\/strong>One of the things that intrigued me the most about Watain was the ritualistic approach to the live show using animal carcasses, lighting candles on a small alter and what not.\u00a0 What can you tell me about the live show and the background to this ritual?<\/strong><\/p>\n

If you play music of a diabolical nature and the music that you perform is permeated by a sinister and infernal essence, of course that will have to translate to the stage show as well and your appearance.\u00a0 It\u2019s not a process that should be forced.\u00a0 It should come as a natural consequence of the music that you\u2019re playing and the artistic work that you are doing.\u00a0 With Watain it was very much that way and it evolved into this thing that it is.\u00a0 When we started playing we already that kind of extreme view of how a black metal live show should be like.\u00a0 It should look like the music sounds.\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s how it all began.\u00a0 The longer that Watain existed the more we realized that the magical side of this band, the spiritual side began to come through and it just began to transform into a ceremonial thing rather than just a rock concert so to say.\u00a0 It evolved into an event where we communicate with the forces that gave birth to this band and that have always been a part of this band.\u00a0 It became a time where we could let these things just come to life and be at one with them.\u00a0 It\u2019s an ever ongoing evolution and the live shows are constantly progressing.\u00a0 They have become something more and more severe and intense and that\u2019s a very good thing to me.\u00a0 It\u2019s a very inspiring context to work with.<\/p>\n

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When Watain takes this ceremony on the road, especially when touring in the southern part of the US, sometimes there are limits as to what you can and can\u2019t do on the stage.\u00a0 When that does happen, how much of an impact does that have on the purpose of your live performance?\u00a0 Does it make things harder for you to do?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, of course it does but being in a band like Watain is always quite a challenge.\u00a0 When you take something as inhuman as Watain into the world, then of course things can be a bit strange.\u00a0 We knew since day one that we would have to face a lot of opposition because of some of the things we wanted to do.\u00a0 I think we\u2019re always pretty well prepared for that to happen.\u00a0 Of course it\u2019s annoying and it makes me want to punch the living shit out of anyone who stands in our way but we always find a way around these things.\u00a0 There\u2019s always a way for the devil to come through no matter what.\u00a0 It cannot be stopped.\u00a0 It\u2019s just a fact and it\u2019s been that way since the dawn of man.\u00a0 The devil always wins and the devil always finds his way.\u00a0 I think that in general, all of that opposition and all of the people who prevent us from doing what we want to do just makes us stronger.\u00a0 It makes us feel more proud and stronger about what we\u2019re doing.\u00a0 We like to fight against the extreme and we like to go against the current.\u00a0 We like to be the enemy and that just fuels the fire of Watain and I actually appreciate that.\u00a0 I like touring in places especially the South because we always feel that tension and how skeptical they are but in the end we just do what the fuck we do anyway [laughs].<\/p>\n

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You obviously take your beliefs very seriously.\u00a0 As a Satanist, is it important for someone to be the same belief as you in order for you to feel that you can communicate with them?\u00a0 Does that make sense?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sure it makes perfect sense and it\u2019s a question that is brought up quite a lot in relation to this band which is understandable.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think many people have the same kind of points of reference that we have as Satanists.\u00a0 I think most of our fans don\u2019t even think about it and that\u2019s something we just have to live with.\u00a0 Not even 5% of our fans are remotely related or connected to Satanism.\u00a0 The thing that people must understand is that we do Watain for our own specific reasons.\u00a0 It is not about us conveying a certain message of our religion to the fans.\u00a0 We do it to be thankful and to be a part of this and for us is a way to get closer to those divine things that we consider to be the heart of this band.\u00a0 In regards to how people relate to Watain, I think people should consider Watain a catalyst of emotions and energy that in turn brings a lot of important questions and perhaps if the god\u2019s will even answers to those questions.\u00a0 We have never meant to write a new bible.\u00a0 We have never meant to impose our beliefs on anyone.\u00a0 That idea is absurd.<\/p>\n

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What scares people the most or makes them feel the most uncomfortable is being \"watain04\"<\/a>confronted with things that they do not understand or things that they perceive to be as taboo or even evil.\u00a0 On the flip side, these things also intrigue a lot of people.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes.\u00a0 It\u2019s about putting people in situations and a collection of things that are not of their everyday life.\u00a0 Presenting them with extreme things that set them off a bit and maybe make them think twice about things they don\u2019t think about.\u00a0 That\u2019s what heavy metal is all about in the first place right?\u00a0 It\u2019s about putting people in places where they perhaps find a new concept of freedom; where they start to ask the important questions of life such as \u201cAre you free?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cWhat are the obstacles in your life?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cWhat have you done to overcome them?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cAre you a man or a mouse?\u201d It\u2019s things like this that lie at the base of things that we present to the people.\u00a0 Some people are fine with that and will stay at the surface.\u00a0 Others might want to dig a little deeper and that\u2019s where it gets interesting.\u00a0 You can dig very deep into this band and there\u2019s still a lot to be found.\u00a0 A lot of people stay there at the surface and I cannot blame them.<\/p>\n

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Even though someone may not have the same beliefs as you, is there a certain level of respect for being so passionate about your beliefs to bring it to the forefront and share it with the masses no matter what that belief is?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I cannot say that I\u2019m always that tolerant when it comes to other beliefs in general.\u00a0 I think when it comes to these bigger questions that are being presented to Watain or any other belief system whatsoever I think it should always be approached with a certain kind of respect.\u00a0 Whether or not you can relate to it is a different story.\u00a0 If people are totally uncomfortable with what we\u2019re doing, which I don\u2019t think would be so strange, then they are free to back off.\u00a0 We\u2019ve always been very open about who we are and what we\u2019re about.<\/p>\n

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Over the years, the use of satanic imagery and even Satanic based lyrics has been very prominent in heavy metal music.\u00a0 You could even say that some don\u2019t truly believe in it but use it as a sort of gimmick.\u00a0 Do you feel that artists that have done this over the years have done more harm than good to those like yourself who are devout in your beliefs?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I think it\u2019s easy to say that they are gimmicks and that they are pretty obvious gimmicks but because of that I cannot really get offended in the same way that I don\u2019t get offended if Roman Polanski makes a movie about Satan.\u00a0 Rosemary\u2019s Baby is a great fucking movie right [laughs]?\u00a0 That doesn\u2019t offend me.\u00a0 The devil is a very interesting figure.\u00a0 He\u2019s been tempting man and man has been admiring him since the dawn of man.\u00a0 It\u2019s not that strange that the devil lingers around extreme forms of art such as heavy metal.\u00a0 I think he has his rightful place there although a lot of people that actually put his imagery or symbols there might not really be aware of how real these things actually are.\u00a0 In combination with music it becomes something more than imagery.\u00a0 That\u2019s the thing with a band like Venom.\u00a0 Of course they were not devout Satanists but those symbols within a Venom live concert becomes something infernal.\u00a0 It becomes something very, very powerful whether or not Venom themselves wanted it.<\/p>\n

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\"watain05\"<\/a>Watain is about to embark on another North American tour in support of The Wild Hunt.\u00a0 What are you looking forward to the most about returning to the US?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Right now I think it\u2019s just about the new album.\u00a0 When you release a new album and you\u2019re about to go on the first tour for it things feel like they are going to explode in every direction.\u00a0 It\u2019s a very intense thing.\u00a0 I look forward that and feeling that.\u00a0 We also have this brand new set of songs that I just can\u2019t wait to go out and play live.\u00a0 The rehearsals have been very inspiring and it\u2019s going to be very good to join forces with the people that appreciate these songs and have them come to life.<\/p>\n

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After over 13 years, how hard is it to create a set list for a tour without feeling like you\u2019re missing something?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s hard in a good way.\u00a0 It\u2019s a good kind of problem I suppose [laughs].\u00a0 We don\u2019t really write up a set list.\u00a0 We pretty much decide on the night in question what we feel like doing.\u00a0 It depends on what kind of place we\u2019re playing, what we feel like doing, what we feel that day, and even what energies we want to work with on that specific night.\u00a0 It\u2019s very much a heat of the moment kind of thing when we come up with the set list.<\/p>\n

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Erik, I\u2019m so looking forward to seeing Watain here in Atlanta and I really appreciate you taking the time out to talk with me today.\u00a0 I really enjoyed getting to know more about you and Watain.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you very much Don.\u00a0 I will see you in Atlanta.<\/p>\n

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Catch Watain on tour!<\/strong>
\n Watain 2014 Wild Hunt Tour Dates:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Oct. 8\u2013New York, NY\u2013Irving Plaza<\/strong>
\n Oct. 9\u2013Philadelphia, PA\u2013Underground Arts<\/strong>
\n Oct. 10\u2013Worcester, MA\u2013Palladium Upstairs<\/strong>
\n Oct. 11\u2013Montreal, QC-Foufounes Electriques<\/strong>
\n Oct. 12\u2013Toronto, ON\u2013Opera House<\/strong>
\n Oct. 14\u2013Detroit, MI\u2013The Magic Stick<\/strong>
\n Oct. 15\u2013Chicago, IL\u2013Bottom Lounge<\/strong>
\n Oct. 16\u2013Minneapolis, MN\u2013Triple Rock Social Club<\/strong>
\n Oct. 18\u2013Denver, CO\u2013Marquis Theatre<\/strong>
\n Oct. 19\u2013Salt Lake City, UT\u2013In The Venue<\/strong>
\n Oct. 21\u2013Seattle, WA\u2013Studio Seven<\/strong>
\n Oct. 22\u2013Vancouver, BC\u2013Rickshaw<\/strong>
\n Oct. 23\u2013Portland, OR\u2013Hawthorne Theater<\/strong>
\n Oct. 25\u2013Oakland, CA\u2013Oakland Metro<\/strong>
\n Oct. 26\u2013Los Angeles, CA\u2013VEX<\/strong>
\n Oct. 27\u2013Phoenix, AZ\u2013Rocky Point Cantina<\/strong>
\n Oct. 28\u2013Albuquerque, NM\u2013Launch Pad<\/strong>
\n Oct. 30\u2013Austin, TX\u2013Red 7<\/strong>
\n Nov. 1\u2013Atlanta, GA\u2013Masquerade Hell<\/strong>
\n Nov. 2\u2013Charlotte, NC\u2013The Casbah<\/strong>
\n Nov. 3\u2013Baltimore, MD\u2013Baltimore Sound Stag<\/strong><\/p>\n

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